The Best & Worst Cruise Lines For First Time Cruisers - Audio Only 🎧| Cruise Cast Ep.20

In episode 20 of the Suite Natured Cruise Cast, we discuss the best and worst cruise lines for first-time cruisers, focusing on families and couples. Sharing our personal experiences and insights on various cruise lines, including Royal Caribbean, Disney, Cunard, and Virgin. 

We also touch on the ideal length for a first cruise and another entertaining cruise confessions and our take on the recent cruise news.

00:00 Introduction to Cruising for First-Timers
00:46 Best Cruise Lines for Families
11:12 Worst Cruise Lines for Families
17:06 Best Cruise Lines for Couples
22:06 Worst Cruise Lines for Couples
23:46 Perfect Length for a First Cruise
25:50 Cruise Confessions and News Stories

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Cruising for First-Timers
• 1:21 Best Cruise Lines for Families
• 11:12 Worst Cruise Lines for Families
• 17:06 Best Cruise Lines for Couples
• 22:06 Worst Cruise Lines for Couples
• 23:46 Perfect Length for a First Cruise
• 25:50 Cruise Confessions and News Stories

Transcript

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Welcome to episode 20 of the Suite Natured Cruise Cast. Hi, I'm Linzi and with me is Marky, Hello. Hello. And today we're talking the best and worst cruise lines the first time cruisers. But first, a little mood music. What did you think of this week's mood music? The silence says a thousand words. Did you not, were you not impressed this week? No, I was not impressed. Okay. I just had three letters going round in my head. What were the three letters? I'm not saying. Okay. Well, the search for the perfect music continues. Let's get on to the topic. Okay. This week, as you said, we're talking about which are the best and worst cruises for first-time cruisers. Obviously, it's a very subjective thing because... whilst we're going to put people in demographics of couples and families etc. Whatever one wants is slightly different out of a cruise but we're going to take our take on it. Okay. Well that's all the take we've got so it has to be that. Well we can ask the roses, I don't think they'll say anything. Shall we start off with what's the best cruise line for families? Because that's how we started out cruising. Yeah we can do it, I'm just thinking. You've sprung this subject matter on me. Yeah, you've had no notice of this whatsoever. No. So even less notice than you normally get of the news stories and the confessions. yeah, I've got in from work and you made me do this. Shall I start off then? What I think is the best one for families. Okay. So, generally speaking, you're to have a child or a couple of children or however many with you and you're going to want to keep them entertained. and you're going to want to be able to have some time for yourself wherever possible. Yes. So for me, when we started out cruising, the first one we ever did was Royal Caribbean. It was, but it was Royal Caribbean when it was a good price to book Royal Caribbean. And this is what worries me. Well, I think anything when you're looking at in terms of for families, it's going to be quite expensive these days. We did the podcast recently on whether it was still good value for money. Now we came out of that podcast saying yeah it is because all holidays have gone up in price. Yes that's true. So I'm not going to dwell too much on the cost element when we're talking about this but more from our own perspective that when we went on we wanted somewhere that had kids clubs that went everything from sort of babies up to 17, 18 year old. Yeah. You know not really calling them kids at that point you know know teens clubs but then It had some nice restaurants and bars and places that we could go when we want. So the first one for me would definitely be Royal Caribbean. Yeah, they had like a 1am curfew. What for the children getting picked up? And being back in the room, yes. Yeah, which is still very late. It's so late. Yeah, at the time when we first went on it, I think our son was about eight or so. He was very small, but he suddenly became a night owl. He did, and before that we were putting him into bed at sort of 8 o'clock-ish at home. Maybe 9. And for them to then tell him they can still until 1 o'clock in the morning. 9 o'clock was a late night for him. It was. So yeah, the fact that they can go there for a long time. But I think when you look at the range of activities, some of the way, you know, I'm talking about World Caribbean in particular, I'm sure we'll touch on a couple of other cruise lines, but World Caribbean, you've got everything from sort of... the rock climbing as well as the kids clubs you've got the rock climbing you've got the arcades and you've got the wave machines and then depending which ship you go on then within the range because obviously massive range of cruise ships are happening you've got the massive slides that go from the top to the bottom you've got zip lines yeah you've got water parks that are know as big as what you see on land on some of the ships like on icon five, six massive slides on there. Yeah, mean, Roll Caribbean is a good one. What would be your choice if not Roll Caribbean as best for families? I think it depends on your children. I really do because our son was bionic. Because some children are more studious. Well, I mean, he was studious, but you know what I mean? was... He always wanted to be doing something. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he hanging around with us. No, and he's not a jigsaw person. No. And I have to say, while we were sort of while he was in the kids clubs and doing all the activities and everything else that they did in there. Yeah. We got to have some really nice meals on there. They have some fantastic restaurants. We got to go to the bath. no, he loved it. And they all went to dinner one night as well. I remember on the gala night. I don't think they still do this. They took them all and they all had a gala dinner together. They did yeah. wonder if they still do that. I don't know but he loved that getting dressed up and leaving us and going out. Out out. If you've been on Royal Caribbean recently as a family and your kids got to go to the gala dinner with the rest of the kids let us know because I do remember I completely forgot about that but I remember thinking what a brilliant idea. Yeah no they loved it. We loved it as well. theatre and they put on lovely shows. Yeah. Shall I chuck in what I think is the second most obvious one for families? Are you going to say Disney? I'm going to say Disney. It is, it's very good. Again, we loved it and we loved it but it's very expensive. Yeah. I don't know, I'm very price oriented. Yeah, I think for this particular one you need to just not forget about, well not forget, forget about price to a degree. Can you write that down and give me that on a slip of paper? No, I can't just for this one podcast. No, I want it in writing. I want it in writing. I will write down for episode 20 you do not need to think about price. I want you to think you do not need to think about price. Well it's on here now. There's witnesses. But I think if you don't think about price. listener who is our witness. I'll watch her. I'll watch her, thank you. Disney is what you think about when you think about families. Not just on a cruise ship, when you think about it. It's sort of got a Disney world and Disneyland and the rest of the parks around the world. It's so interlinked as a family one on that. But for me, when we first went on it, and that was on one of the original two Disney shows, there wasn't a lot of dedicated adult-only space on there. There was the restaurants. There was a restaurant at that point. It wasn't Remi, it was something else, wasn't it? I remember what it was at the point that we went on it. We're going back to 2010-ish, somewhere around about then. Maybe, yeah, time ago. Now the newer Disney ships, and the older ones that have had a refresh as well. I've got the adults only area. Yeah, and that makes a big difference for it being a viable, proper family one where you're going to get more time. even so on Disney for the kids than for adults compared to Alcarbion which is balanced equally I feel. Can we also touch on that it's great for when we're talking about families to if you like to go on a multi-generational family holiday if you like to go on the holiday with with their sisters, aunts, uncles and make a big deal of it and have a big family holiday great. Would you say Disney's Better for that than more Caribbean? No, I think they're good as either is. Yeah, I think it but people forget because because you don't all have to stay. If you go to, for example, a hotel, you all want to stay at the hotel. It's pretty much they're all the same price for everybody. Whereas on the cruise ship, you can all decide to have a different room. So somebody could be in an inside room, somebody could be in an ocean view, somebody could be in a balcony and you can then cost it to. your family. Yeah it fits to a wider budget better when you're doing that. mean that applies to any cruise line. and you might need two rooms. Yeah absolutely, similarly as your kids get a little bit older when they're in the teens you're probably not going to be wanting to be sharing four people in a room with two late teens. Well you might want an interconnecting or something like that. And then they start getting pricier. I'm very price oriented, you told me not to be, which I'm taking with me. from this podcast. I've seen a lovely lovely dress. That's not a cruise. No but it Is it for a cruise? It's for multi-purpose dress. Any other cruise lines that you would put in that same level as Royal Caribbean and Disney as best for first-timers and why did we pick both of those ones for first-timers? Okay Royal Caribbean picked it because it was our first cruise but we got it on a bargain and that's maybe something you'd want to try and sign up to the newsletter and see if there's a deal. Book really late if you can. I don't think you can really go wrong with Royal Caribbean that much as a first-time cruise for a family. Depends where it's going out on as well because then you've got all the flights and all that nightmare but yeah that and then Disney again nice. In respect of other cruise lines, I don't know what the deal is with P &R, but when we go out, when we've gone on P &R and we've got families, the kids seem to come to the bars more than they do on the American ships. Do you agree? Do think that's just UK culture? I think certainly when you're coming out of the UK, because if you look at going on, for instance, MSC, we saw that same thing that the bars would be as full of children. as adults. Well there was a lot of children. Yeah. Do I sound any more like the child catcher from... That's how I say it. Children. Children. Especially if they're anywhere near a bar. Yes. Give me a net. I said this is a child that was actually... I'm going to shut up. I think it is... You do seem much more in sort of the... UK European culture of them being in those environments and then I recall seeing one when we've been on the American lines or going out of America. might be wrong but I don't recall. No, I think it's easy to see it when you're on the UK ships you just kind of... it's a thing. Yeah. Shall we come on to the worst type of cruise for families? And then we'll cover a couple separately. I think it depends on your children. think it really depends on your children. Some might like to hang out in a library. You could have a Lisa Simpson. I would say statistically most children... a Lisa Simpson. You could have a Lisa Simpson who likes to go to the opera type stuff like you would get on MSC. Lisa Simpson would love Cunard. But you see, Cunard would be right at the top of my list of not great for families. Would be for Lisa. Apart from, if you've got a very specific family that likes all the stuff on Cunard, then you would like it. But I would say, I remember the first time that we went on Queen Elizabeth and we walked past the Children's Centre and it was basically this caged in zoo area. But I also remember there was a very, very well behaved child in the veranda restaurant. And you wouldn't know that they were there. They were very well behaved. They were there an old song. But would you still say that it's a good first time cruise? if it's like your 20th cruise and your kids have got used to being on a cruise I think that that's a little bit different. I'm not convinced that Cunard is a good one for... They've got finger painting. They've got all sorts of... I feel you're just checking the opposite. No I'm not checking it, I'm not. They like to get their outfits on, some children like to wear them. So which would you say is the worst cruise line for families for a first time cruise? Silence. It all depends. You know your children. I don't know your feel I'm not being very helpful. It depends on your children. I don't know. In respect of worst I'm going to say... Worst don't mean it's a bad cruise line. It just means it's not the right one for the first time. Olsen take children? Yes they do. I'm going to say Fred Olsen. Why? Because Kate went on Fred Olsen and there was children and he did not enjoy it. So I don't think he had a great time with them and they didn't have a great time. We've not been on Fred Olsen so it's a little bit harder for me to say for sure. It's not one that I would think of. If someone asked me what should be the first cruise line we got as a family, Fred Olsen would probably be at the lower end of that. I agree. Cunard would be right at the bottom end. I think Cunard is even to certain adult only cruises, it's still... there's a stigma attached to it terms of that formality. I think children. That perceived formality in some degrees. But I think at that bottom end of it, it's there. Now for me, the worst one, if not Cunard, isn't actually a single one. Why is it? But it's a range of any of the sort of ultra luxury ones. Again, it depends on your children. It does, but... brought up with ultra luxury. No but you see I've the reason that I'm saying that is some of them like the Viking ones for instance are adult only but other ones like Regent, Silver Seas, Oceania they do let children on but they have so little for them during the day. Yeah but it's not like when we were small you could have a device that keep you happy. Well yeah if your kids are gonna be happy just on sort of an iPad or Nintendo Switch or something all the time then fine. Sat by the pool. yeah I would say that those ones have the least facilities for children and are more geared up for sort of older families. If you've got older kids like 18 upwards, I think those ones are fine then. I think it's just when they're younger because kids of the younger age tend to, generally speaking, need stimulating more. Yeah but you know you could... you know entertain your children you know how they like to be entertained they might love cheese I'm feeling that some of this is just your own personal they could love cheese and food but you're not going to see water slides on those ton of chips we'd have taken our small son and said you can eat any cheese he'd have been happy but at the same time there'd have been no other kids on there and I'm fairly sure eventually they'd have gone I'm a bit bummed. Shall we move on to couples? Okay. Best cruise line for couples? Virgin. Do want to just speak a bit, Laurenette? Virgin. Yeah, I mean, it's a fairly easy one for us because if it's your first time cruising, you will have some preconceptions of what you think cruising is. As a couple, that's going to shatter all those preconceptions. It's not sort of what you think of it being sort of old or... Boring or anything else. Yeah, it is a really fun cruise line and I think for first-time couples obviously Calgary families because it's adults only and you're 18 or older. You can be adult but you can have older children. You can have older children. I think if you've got if you've got children in the 20s, that's a great one for them to come along to. they'd love it. You don't see many young people on Virgin. And by that I mean Probably 24 or younger. We've not been during like... The main holiday periods. because whether you're at uni or... No, we've been in August before that. We've just been in On a mini break. Yeah, but I don't remember seeing any really young people on that. I don't remember seeing anybody on that. So what do you think it is, other than what I've said, what is it that makes Virgin so good for first calendars? You don't... There's dress... You can take... You don't have to go out and buy a whole new... take you to see it out doubt clothes yeah so there's none of that I'm gonna have to take a tuxedo no absolutely yeah you always annoys me when you have to take dress shoes for one night and your shoes are big and they are heavy so if we're it's always a nightmare yeah yeah you haven't got any of that it's just so people do tend to dress up a lot on Virgin but not in a sort of ball gown and tuxedo wear in an out way yeah If you were going out somewhere fancy. Like sparkly? You're out for any. There's probably more sparkles on a Virgin cruise than any other cruise line. Love it. People love bit of glitter on there don't they? They do. In fact that reminds Glitter in a sequin. I need you to paint my toenails actually for an upcoming cruise. Okay. Because I've got... Yeah. Okay I will paint your toenails for you. Thank you. I found the colour that... For this random segway to it because when we went on Virgin I painted you two toenails and the last did perfectly didn't it? You almost do a good job. I do? Secret skill. Okay any other one that you would say is a really good one for first time couples? I've got another one if you haven't. I'll let you do it. Princess. yeah, okay. Because it's not that it's a family cruise line. It is encouraging families to go on there and you will get more children on there than you would on Virgin obviously. Yeah. But I think it's that middle ground along with someone sort of celebrity where for a first time on there you're not going to feel... intimidated by the whole thing if that's the right word. You'll need some outfits, you'll need some more formal outfits. but still less formal than say Q &A. Less formal but still something snazzy. That's saying that that depends on the itinerary. But I think it's very good. I'd also say that Unlike Celebrity, I think the pricing is more good. It's not scary. You can get some good deals on Princess. I mean we saw like a, it would be a heavy duty one for a first time couple but there was a Transatlantic that was like 16 nights fully loaded, that's £1600 a person. I that's going to bring down to something else in a second which is what's the perfect length for a first time one. But if we just finish off on Princess first of all then... Yeah, and one of the other advantages for first timers on Princess when it's first time cruise, you're not sure how much you need a budget. No Princess do have their Princess premium and Princess plus package. Yeah, and Yeah, some people love them. Some people don't we we think they're fantastic They are the best value ones that's out there as far as we are I think when you're going on your first cruise That one just ticks a lot of boxes in terms of you don't have in a way about budget. You're not thinking about it too much. So for me and Virgin's the same that there's no specialty dining. No, I also think if you can, if you are looking at a cruise and you are a solo traveler, signing up to be when then Virgin release their cruises would be a good thing because they have solo rooms and solo rates. It's not the stupid celebrity pricing where it's double and then some. Yeah. So that's something to consider as well. Yeah. And I was debating talking about the solo. element of it but we've no experience with them so I didn't feel that we really could do it. I can talk about price. You can and some of them are very expensive. know, charging a 200 % supplement. Not that price ever matters to me ever. never matters to you. So which would you say is... I'm keeping that, I'm just telling you, I'm keeping it. What would you say is worst for couples then? For first-time couples? So you've got Best being Princess and Virgin. I think it depends on the situation. Yeah, for sure. it's an anniversary or something like that or a special milestone birthday, then you'll be okay on QNAD because you're geared up mentally for that type of Yeah, absolutely. I want to put QNAD down for that. Maybe MSC? might be a little bit too... Unless you're going in yacht club. Well, I'm going to sort of divide that. If you're going in yacht club, no, no problem whatsoever. If you're going into MSC Bella, so their entry into MSC cruising, that would probably be near the bottom of my recommendation for first time ones, because you're going to see it. cruising it it's very busiest and most cramped yeah and that's not gonna give you a good impression of what cruising is. No. So I would definitely say MSC not Yacht Club. But if you're in Yacht Club you're not gonna have any issue whatsoever and I think Yacht Club is another one which is a great first time one but it's expensive. It has to be for a milestone thing. Yeah if you're on an anniversary or you've just got married or anything then going into some flight Yacht Club would be a great first time. You honeymoon. honeymoon. You might have got married on board. Which others would you say are at the bottom end of what you wouldn't recommend? For a couple. Yeah, first time couple. For me, it'd be one that we just put in the top one for families, which would be Disney. Now if you're a Disney fanatic and you love Disney then that's the perfect first time one. Disney adult, you've been a I said it's a subjective discussion. it's so subjective. But if you're on there as a couple and you're not a Disney fanatic, well I would question why you're looking at the Disney one to start with. Because one, very expensive and Pro Varte you're going to have more children on that than any other Craigslist. Yeah. And the entertainment is geared up for children. Yeah. They have some amazing Broadway shows on them. but they are geared up for children. The movies are all Disney stuff. Okay, I'll take that. So are you with me on that? Yeah. Okay. We'll finish off with perfect length then for that first cruise. Our first cruise was four nights. Two, so that was not enough. Yeah. I think three or four night ones are not enough to get a proper feel of it because by the time you get on and get used to it, you're not off again. So I would say probably seven nights is... But make sure the itinerary is for you. Yeah. Don't just always get on a cruise. Make sure that where you're going you want to get off. Yeah, so you're not just on the ship for that full run. Yes. Yeah, I think the obvious first time cruise is for anyone. Going pretty much anywhere around the Med, the Caribbean. Yeah. Yeah, if you're coming out of the UK. Yeah. pretty much any direction that they head off in that direction for seven nights to Northern Europe, the fjords, that sort of stuff. are beautiful. Depending on what you want out of the cruise. But seven nights for me seems like that. Perfect. You might be a sun bunny, but fjords is still beautiful. I'd just step around your list. Yeah, fjords is stunning. I'm taking from this. I can now spend whatever I want, whenever I want. You can take that from this. We'll continue the discussion after the podcast finishes, if you like. Money is... No object? I'm just... Okay. Which I could cruise confession. Okay, so this one is from Richard, real name, just not the surname. And this one is called The Karaoke Catastrophe. Okay. Lindsay Mark, I come before you humbled and ashamed. no. The karaoke bar, a place where dreams are made and voices are well, let's just say tested, became the stage for my cruise confession and my ultimate downfall. Okay. It was the penultimate night of the cruise and the karaoke bar was packed. The atmosphere was electric, fuelled by a potent mix of vacation excitement and questionable cocktails. We've been there, we've been to those karaoke bars with that mix. A potent mix. Yeah. My newfound cruise buddies, a group of retirees with a surprising thirst for adventure, egged me on. Sing, sing, sing. Okay. They chanted. The voices grew louder with each passing round of cocktails. Okay. Emboldened by their encouragement and the aforementioned questionable cocktails, I took to the stage my song of choice, Believe Me I'm Rapsody. In retrospect, perhaps Twinkle Twinkle Little Starve would have been more appropriate. The opening chords struck and I launched into the song with the confidence of a seasoned rock star. However, my voice, normally passable in the shower, betrayed me. High notes were met with strangled squawks. Low notes descended into guttural growls and the operatic section, well let's just say it resembled a dying walrus. A walrus? The crowd initially supported began to dwindle. I painted. Some politely excused themselves while others openly cringed. By the time I reached the climactic guitar solo I was virtually alone in the bar, bathed in the harsh judgement of a disco ball. I want to be bathed in that... In the harsh judgment of a disco ball. I think I probably have if I'm honest. I'm fairly sure that you have. So many balls. Please forgive my sins and spare me from a lifetime of karaoke induced nightmares. We've touched on Virgin already in this one and one of the things that I love on Virgin is that they have those private karaoke booths. There's still a public karaoke sessions. Yeah but they're not soundproofed. They're not soundproofed but you can't see anyone judging you. No, no, you There's no harsh disco bottle. You can't see the judgement. You could probably hear it if you listen carefully. So, what do you think? and we're going to allow them to carry on with their C pass on the basis that they just sit humming at the table and drinking their cocktails. So he feels a harsh one saying that they should get off at the next bar. no, no they're not going We've heard some truly dreadful karaoke. I mean it... We've heard some amazing karaoke. Yeah, but that's what karaoke is for. It is. I dislike karaoke more when everyone who gets up is like near professional singer. And then when you get someone to get up who's like Vic Reeves' Pumpsinger then you're like, yes this is what I've been waiting for for the last half hour. I've forgiven. So, Perfect. Thank you very much for that cruise confession Richard and if you've got a cruise confession please just send them along to our email. News story number one. Okay let's whizz through these because I'm on the bath. Okay. Disney Adventure. It's new ship. has got new home music. nice. Now we do like Disney Home music. do like a Disney Home. A top tip for it is not to stand at the front under the arm when they're playing. We've seen several people do that and get nearly deafened. Yes, I do that. Now the original two ships when they came out when we went on them only had one song. Yeah. Which was When You Wish Upon A Star. I could have told you that. All the more recent ones as All got the little A range of them now. But the new one has got some new tunes. Okay. Would you like to know what they are? So the first one is Grim Grinning Ghosts from Haunted Mansion. Okay. Now you might think why, but it's got a Haunted Mansion parlor on board it. Okay, I'll take that. Next up, A Whole New World from Aladdin. And that's because the Grand Hall is Aladdin themed, it? And it also has Remember Me from Cocoa. good grief. It's traumatising. which ties into the new theatrical dining experience at Plaza de Coco. lovely. Is there any you would have liked to have seen on? So obviously we've got another Disney ship coming Mamma Knows Best. Mamma Knows Best. Okay. And would that be into the Mamma No Desk bar? No desk? What did a desk call? No desk. Okay. News story number two. The MSC cruise loyalty program, the Voyager one. We are Diamond Stairs. is their top level. They do the... match and we've already got it on our cabin so we've got it on there. Fantastic. We're now no longer top. Okay. They've introduced a new one. All right. So they've now got blue diamond tier. Would you prefer it to be pink diamond tier? I'm going to blue diamond tier. So it's got some exclusive benefits over and above what the existing diamond level have. And guests can get into that after achieving 25,000 points. they're not allowing any status match. The only way to get to that is with the points. And if you've already been status matched, you diamond already, but your points start at zero. that's not You've a long way to climb to get I've got a long way. I thought this was the PR thing. Some of the new bits that on there, tell me if you think any of these are any good. They've got the Wi-Fi package for one device. Yeah, that's what I thought. Priority access to tender boats. I'd want my own tender boat! Meet and greet with the ship's captain and senior officers. Some people are like that. But it also includes a range of onboard events including a behind-the-scenes talk. A special event with entertainment and special welcome from the captain. That one is every chance you'd be the only person in that one. So it's gonna take a while to get up to that. Although I would guess if people would have been back in that membership. Milestone reward, give priority line for changing your preferred dining time, birthday cakes, special gifts. bathrobes, complimentary spa for an hour and one free formula simulator credit. Right. What do you think about it? Cool, I'm impressed. Yeah, that's what I thought. Because when they said they've got this new one, I was like, wow, what's this new level going to be, you once again? But I have to say there was nothing on there that absolutely... Now, if you go onto the site, and I've had a look at it properly, there's about 30 different things in there, but most of them are variants of what you already get. Where's my champagne breakfast? No, champagne breakfast. Would you like to know how many nights you're going to have to do to get to that level? Okay. So depending on whether you like a lot of them, if you go in sweets, yeah, no points. But if you did seven nights in yacht club, would get you around a thousand points. Okay. If you did seven nights in Bella, that'd get you 500 points. So it's roughly about half that. So that would mean you'd have to 25 yacht club cruises of seven. or more or 50 Bella Cruises to get to that. I think it's good for those that are already there but it's it's not one that I've gone wow. No no no. I think there are better loyalty ones than that. Final news story. thank god. And it's time for Lindsay's bath. News story number three. V Odyssey. it's that the one. That's the one that's on a permanent going around the world for three and a half, four years, whatever it is. So there's been a lot in the news of this over recent because it was delayed getting off but it's now set off. However, it's set off and it's not full. They talked about that quite openly. But they're introducing some new things to attract more residents. I've actually heard this. So let's see if you heard the same. They're attempting to fill the space bar for a new flexible cruise options for residential cruises without a permanent commitment. Now you might just go, why is that not just a cruise? But no. So it's the new TOLA-V program, which seems to be more along with the timeshare, but with a lot more freedom. And it allows the cruises to board the ship at any time along its ongoing multi-year journey to 140 countries, 425 ports. The guests can select a one, two, three or four year option in Ocean View Villas. Right. So that balcony is. Rates start at £49,999 per person for double occupancy. Nice. So £100,000 or £79,999 for single occupancy. my goodness. And that's for a one year membership. While the four year one is £160,000 or £256,000. depending whether it's single or double occupancy. Now, what's interesting is that the prices are heavily discounted from the original year round one. I bet you'll love that if you're Which were originally 99,999 for Villa and then a monthly fee. Yeah. So there's even a try before you buy option where people can go on for a seven day stay for...$2,000 for double occupancy or $999 for single. So they're literally charging single rate after we've just talked about solar. And it includes all the usual things like accommodation, meals, activities, fitness. It doesn't include drinks. Does that tempt you anymore to try that? Even though money is no object to me now, no. You won't be tempted just to try it on the seven day one? No? No. No. No. It's interesting that they've decided that they needed to sort of change it so soon. Yeah. But they obviously have. wonder why. Well there's plenty of sort of people making YouTube videos on there so I will occasionally pop in and see what people are saying and doing on there. It's nice, it's family got off and going and see what happens in the future. That brings us to the end of the cruise cast. Cheers darling. Cheers. I'm sorry guys, I've had such a day. I'm off for a therapy bath now. Thank you for listening. I'll play that with little bit of think that's the song.